I reported it. That one is bad. They even show that it is a 4r movement in their own pictures! Let alone a white effing date wheel! Good find and eff them. If they want to sell it as a mod, I am all for it. But don't you dare try to pass that off as a SARB.yinzburgher wrote:This time people are actually bidding on it. Not good.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-Wrist-Wa ... _Auction=1
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I see so many of these that I will not buy any Citizen or Seiko watches from sellers in India. Every watch I have tried to buy from an Indian seller has turned out to be fake or franken and misrepresented, or never arrived, and then a painful refund process. Never again.yinzburgher wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:09 am A lot of these Seiko Prospex divers out of India on eBay are tempting. Many of them look 100% like the real thing. Some of them may in fact be the real deal. I tend to think that a majority of them are likely Frankenwatches rather than outright fakes. And then some of them just don't quite look right and it's tough to make out what looks "off" about them. And still others are blatantly obviously fakes. This one was one of those that I knew didn't look right but it wasn't immediately obvious what was wrong. It took a few seconds to notice that the watch was completely missing crownguards, and I could tell there was something funny with the insert but wasn't sure what. Then when you pull up an image of the real deal next to it, you realize just how bad it is....the numbers on the insert....the bezel itself...the seconds hand....the crown....that freakin chapter ring.....ERRMMAAHGURHD!!WHAT A MESS!!!
Could be a Franken... the bezel insert, chapter ring and caseback look like the Thai Ltd edition Snm015. These first gen steel Samurais (not the Ti versions) also lacked crown guards, but the case on this one still looks off.yinzburgher wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:09 am A lot of these Seiko Prospex divers out of India on eBay are tempting. Many of them look 100% like the real thing. Some of them may in fact be the real deal. I tend to think that a majority of them are likely Frankenwatches rather than outright fakes. And then some of them just don't quite look right and it's tough to make out what looks "off" about them. And still others are blatantly obviously fakes. This one was one of those that I knew didn't look right but it wasn't immediately obvious what was wrong. It took a few seconds to notice that the watch was completely missing crownguards, and I could tell there was something funny with the insert but wasn't sure what. Then when you pull up an image of the real deal next to it, you realize just how bad it is....the numbers on the insert....the bezel itself...the seconds hand....the crown....that freakin chapter ring.....ERRMMAAHGURHD!!WHAT A MESS!!!
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/SEIKO-SAMURAI- ... SwzCNcviOX
Oh wow. Didn't know that Samurai existed. I guess it's a Franken using parts from that one.ShoreFire77 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:09 amCould be a Franken... the bezel insert, chapter ring and caseback look like the Thai Ltd edition Snm015. These first gen steel Samurais (not the Ti versions) also lacked crown guards, but the case on this one still looks off.yinzburgher wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:09 am A lot of these Seiko Prospex divers out of India on eBay are tempting. Many of them look 100% like the real thing. Some of them may in fact be the real deal. I tend to think that a majority of them are likely Frankenwatches rather than outright fakes. And then some of them just don't quite look right and it's tough to make out what looks "off" about them. And still others are blatantly obviously fakes. This one was one of those that I knew didn't look right but it wasn't immediately obvious what was wrong. It took a few seconds to notice that the watch was completely missing crownguards, and I could tell there was something funny with the insert but wasn't sure what. Then when you pull up an image of the real deal next to it, you realize just how bad it is....the numbers on the insert....the bezel itself...the seconds hand....the crown....that freakin chapter ring.....ERRMMAAHGURHD!!WHAT A MESS!!!
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/SEIKO-SAMURAI- ... SwzCNcviOX
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Yeah, there are a few of those 1st generation Samurais that you just don't see about:yinzburgher wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:17 amOh wow. Didn't know that Samurai existed. I guess it's a Franken using parts from that one.ShoreFire77 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:09 am
Could be a Franken... the bezel insert, chapter ring and caseback look like the Thai Ltd edition Snm015. These first gen steel Samurais (not the Ti versions) also lacked crown guards, but the case on this one still looks off.
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