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Re: Tissot le locle from eBay seller everydaydealsince1997

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:28 pm
by chicharo
TheJohnP wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:24 pm
chicharo wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:06 pm There is no number. Probably, it's a fake movement. Thank you for the help

Th number might be under this section of the caseback.
I think you should be fine.

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I'll take a more detailed look. You are very kind. Thank you so much

Re: Tissot le locle from eBay seller everydaydealsince1997

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:57 pm
by DogOnTime
Biggest discrepancy is the "100ft" engraving spacing, I have to conclude it's likely to be fake.

There should also be some patterns engraved here, circled in red.

Re: Tissot le locle from eBay seller everydaydealsince1997

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:46 pm
by chicharo
Nsjong wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:57 pm Biggest discrepancy is the "100ft" engraving spacing, I have to conclude it's likely to be fake.

There should also be some patterns engraved here, circled in red.
Oh! I'll test the 80 hour proof. Thank you so much

Re: Tissot le locle from eBay seller everydaydealsince1997

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:35 pm
by chicharo
Update!

The watch stopped after 44 hours more or less :(

Re: Tissot le locle from eBay seller everydaydealsince1997

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:57 pm
by yinzburgher
chicharo wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:35 pm Update!

The watch stopped after 44 hours more or less :(
Hello [mention]chicharo[/mention]. May I ask where you bought this watch? Who was the seller? It might be helpful for others, myself included. Thanks.

Edit:. Apologies, somehow I missed the seller name in the thread title.

Re: Tissot le locle from eBay seller everydaydealsince1997

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:36 pm
by chicharo
yinzburgher wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:57 pm
chicharo wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:35 pm Update!

The watch stopped after 44 hours more or less :(
Hello @chicharo. May I ask where you bought this watch? Who was the seller? It might be helpful for others, myself included. Thanks.

Edit:. Apologies, somehow I missed the seller name in the thread title.
Hi

It’s on the title of the post. An ebay seller named everydaydealsince1997. He has a 100 positive feedback

Re: Tissot le locle from eBay seller everydaydealsince1997

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:22 pm
by chicharo
Nsjong wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:57 pm Biggest discrepancy is the "100ft" engraving spacing, I have to conclude it's likely to be fake.

There should also be some patterns engraved here, circled in red.
Sadly, you are right. It's a fake. A beautiful watch. But fake. The power reserve gives me 44 hours more or less.

Re: Tissot le locle from eBay seller everydaydealsince1997

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:12 am
by DogOnTime
chicharo wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:36 pm
yinzburgher wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:57 pm
chicharo wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:35 pm Update!

The watch stopped after 44 hours more or less :(
Hello @chicharo. May I ask where you bought this watch? Who was the seller? It might be helpful for others, myself included. Thanks.

Edit:. Apologies, somehow I missed the seller name in the thread title.
Hi

It’s on the title of the post. An ebay seller named everydaydealsince1997. He has a 100 positive feedback

eBay will almost always side with the buyer. Best of luck.

Re: Tissot le locle from eBay seller everydaydealsince1997

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:37 am
by watchpalooza
Nsjong wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:12 am
chicharo wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:36 pm
yinzburgher wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:57 pm

Hello @chicharo. May I ask where you bought this watch? Who was the seller? It might be helpful for others, myself included. Thanks.

Edit:. Apologies, somehow I missed the seller name in the thread title.
Hi

It’s on the title of the post. An ebay seller named everydaydealsince1997. He has a 100 positive feedback

eBay will almost always side with the buyer. Best of luck.
Unfortunately this has not been my experience. You will either need to make a claim through Ebay or through PayPal (not both). They will tell you to open a claim and provide proof that it is counterfeit...meaning you will need a letter from a watchmaker or Tissot. Even then, the seller will get to submit an argument, and if they have worded the listing cleverly they will likely win. If not, then you will. It would be MUCH easier to simply ask for a return from the seller without giving a reason. Check the return policy on the listing. To protect his reputation, he will most likely accept a return.

Re: Tissot le locle from eBay seller everydaydealsince1997

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:12 am
by TheJohnP
chicharo wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:35 pm Update!

The watch stopped after 44 hours more or less :(
Just to play devil's advocate for a moment:

1) Again, any way to truly authenticate the watch/movement is to have it inspected by a professional. As [mention]watchpalooza[/mention] suggested, either an independent watchmaker or Tissot itself. Have you tried sending the serial number to Tissot to see if they have it in their files? That is something you can easily do while sheltered in place.

2) As you mentioned above in your test of the power reserve and only getting around 44 hours instead of 80. That to me might indicate that it could be a Powermatic 80 movement. Why would a fake movement have a BETTER power reserve than a base 2824 (roughly 38 hours)? Can you definitively, 100% guarantee that you were able fully wind the watch, or did it just seem like you did? Have you hand wound the watch until it felt like you couldn't any more?

A couple of points to consider so you don't feel like you've been taken, especially if there's a chance you haven't.

Re: Tissot le locle from eBay seller everydaydealsince1997

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:58 pm
by chicharo
TheJohnP wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:12 am
chicharo wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:35 pm Update!

The watch stopped after 44 hours more or less :(
Just to play devil's advocate for a moment:

1) Again, any way to truly authenticate the watch/movement is to have it inspected by a professional. As @watchpalooza suggested, either an independent watchmaker or Tissot itself. Have you tried sending the serial number to Tissot to see if they have it in their files? That is something you can easily do while sheltered in place.

2) As you mentioned above in your test of the power reserve and only getting around 44 hours instead of 80. That to me might indicate that it could be a Powermatic 80 movement. Why would a fake movement have a BETTER power reserve than a base 2824 (roughly 38 hours)? Can you definitively, 100% guarantee that you were able fully wind the watch, or did it just seem like you did? Have you hand wound the watch until it felt like you couldn't any more?

A couple of points to consider so you don't feel like you've been taken, especially if there's a chance you haven't.
The tissot answer

Pd. I just think that I fully winded. But, i'm not totally sure. But, It should give me arround 70 hours, right?

Re: Tissot le locle from eBay seller everydaydealsince1997

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:43 pm
by chicharo
The seller says...

Re: Tissot le locle from eBay seller everydaydealsince1997

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:20 pm
by tommy_boy
So what is this seller's reaction to the reply from Tissot, wherein they cannot ID this watch based on the number you submitted?

Re: Tissot le locle from eBay seller everydaydealsince1997

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:24 pm
by chicharo
tommy_boy wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:20 pm So what is this seller's reaction to the reply from Tissot, wherein they cannot ID this watch based on the number you submitted?
I'm expexted to... Haha

I gave tissot this serial IBW 172 XJS

Re: Tissot le locle from eBay seller everydaydealsince1997

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:19 pm
by chicharo
tommy_boy wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:20 pm So what is this seller's reaction to the reply from Tissot, wherein they cannot ID this watch based on the number you submitted?
OEM version?? Is he trying to kidding me?? Haha